Dear Bandito,
I put this page together to help guide you in your tuning and suspension
decisions and the best place to start when it comes to modifying your Bandit.
I've done years of testing and my goal is for you to get the biggest bang for
your dollars spent and do it right the first time.
New questions will be added periodically. Enjoy for now,
Dale Walker
Questions
Horse Power
1. What is the first step to make more power?
2. Is re-jetting necessary when I add the slip-on?
3. I'm on a budget so can I run the slip-on first then add the
jet kit later when I can afford it?
4. I see you make three jet kit, the stage 1, stage 1 mod & the
stage 2, which do you recommend?
5. Does the stage 2 add a lot of intake noise and will the
filters get wet while riding in the rain
6. What does the timing advancer do and is it hard to install?
7. What about the full Holeshot Vortex stepped header, should I
just go with that first or start with the slip-on?
8. I already own a Brand X slip-on. Can I purchase just the
Vortex header?
9. I've done the external mods I want, so can I do any thing
else without tearing down my motor
10. I'm thinking of a winter project and I want to eat my
friends R1 so what's next?
11. Can't I just mill the head and raise the compression?
12. What will your street strip port work do for me?
13. Why do you mill the head when you do the port work?
14. Whats the next step for even more power?
15. How much of a gain will this give me and how will it effect
the power delivery.
Brakes and Suspension
1. My bike doesn't seem to stop as well as it should and the
front end really dives when I brake hard. What's the first step to improve this?
2. I hear the ultimate front fork modification is the Race Tech gold valves
and springs, should I do this more expensive mod instead?
3. Can I install the Race Tech parts myself?
First lets talk HORSE POWER my favorite thing
1. What is the first step to make more power?
The first step is to add the Holeshot vortex slip-on, jet kit and +5 degree
timing advancer.
2. Is re-jetting necessary when I add the slip-on?
It is not mandatory and the Vortex will add 12 to 14 hp and 10 ft- lbs. on the
1998-2000 B-12 and 5-7 hp on the 2001+ B-12. Just bolting it on.
To make it less cold blooded, really smooth it out and to get even more power
and torque I highly recommend one of my jetting kits. The B-6 will pick up
5 to 7 hp in the mid range and about 3 on top for a much more enjoyable ride.
3. I'm on a budget so can I run the slip-on first then add the jet kit
later when I can afford it?
Yes you can and it will not cause any motor damage by doing so. The B-12 has
such low compression you can't hurt it. The B-6 should always have my jet kit
and advancer installed at the same time.
4. I see you make three jet kit, the stage 1, stage 1 mod & the stage 2,
which do you recommend?
This is really a personal choice. All my kits can be dialed in to run very
smooth. The stage 1 retains the look of the stock air box, will add about 2
more hp and really help it warm up quicker as well run much smoother with
better response. The stage 1 Modified kit is the same kit with different
jetting so an additional 2 inch hole may be added to the back of the air box
for increased air flow and about 2 more additional hp which is free of
charge. The stage 1 and 1 mod kit is also the most economical. The stage 2
kit is my personal choice eliminating the air box completely. It give you
much easier carb access really cleans things up and adds a full 5 to 7 more
hp above the slip-on. All my kits include the complete jet kit that I
designed and tested, Plus K&N high flow filter or filters. I also offer the
stage1 and 2 for the B-6 through 1999 models and the results are what I
already mentioned.All my kits come with very good instruction for the home
tuner and I'm always here to help.
5. Does the stage 2 add a lot of intake noise and will the filters get wet
while riding in the rain?
The intake noise is very minimal On the B-12 but a bit louder on the B-6.
Riding in the rain is absolutely not a problem and the filters do not get
wet. The shape of the tank and wear your legs our located shed all the water
off and it will not get to the filters. The only time they can get wet is if
you have to park in the rain for a few hours. We have a simple full water
proof cover that slips on in seconds that cures this problem, so no worries.
6. What does the timing advancer do and is it hard to install?
The Holeshot timing advancer advances the ignition timing 5 degrees. This
adds throttle response, makes it easier to tune, adds 1 to 2 hp and smoothes
it out even more. I highly recommend adding this with the jet kit. I do not
recommend it unless you are re-jetting. As far as the install, Its a real
easy bolt on deal. Just remove the small right front engine cover un-bolt
the old one and bolt on the Holeshot you will need to get a new cover gasket
from your dealer first because it may tear when you remove the cover. The
advancer does not cause it to run hot or ping at all.
7. What about the full Holeshot Vortex stepped header, should I just go with
that first or start with the slip-on?
This again depends on your budget. The full header system removes about 16
lbs. verses about 7 lbs. with the slip-on. It not only looks beautiful with
the sterling silver jet hot coating, but makes 3 to 4 additional hp with the
proper tune up. It offers more ground clearance than the original and good
oil and filter access without removal.
Note: The Vortex header is Available as a full system or an upgrade
to owners that already purchased our Vortex slip-on.
8. I already own a Brand X slip-on. Can I purchase just the Vortex header?
Sorry, NO. After 8 months of development I just can't have my beautiful pipe
running around with another big name muffler on it.
9. I've done the external mods I want, so can I do any thing else without
tearing down my motor
Yes the next step would be to drop in the GSX-R intake cam. This will get you
4 to 7 hp upstairs and only hurt the midrange ever so slightly. We sell these
brand new at a discount to our current Bandit customers.
Note: This only applies to the B-12.
10. I'm thinking of a winter project and I want to eat my friends R1 so
what's next?
Installing my 1157 cc 11:1 piston kit or 1216 cc kit with head work is the
answer. Both combined with my port work are capable of 145 to 150 peak
Horsepower but the 1216 combo kicks the standard bores butt from 4000 to 8000
rpm range really bad.Both kits utilize J&E pistons with my own dome design to
keep the CR relatively low so pump gas even 89 octane is not a problem and
the engine stays very reliable. The standard bore kit is capable of 85 ft
lbs. where the 1216 cc kit has made a arm stretching 96 ft-lbs. on my dyno.
Note these numbers are with my head work, full pipe, stage 2 and advancer.
11. Can't I just mill the head and raise the compression?
Yes but I don't feel this is the way to go. To raise it enough to be
effective you must mill off .050 to.060 and if you add cams or want to change
the cam timing you can bend the valves pretty easy if you make one mistake.
Plus the J&E pistons are forged not cast like the stockers and are a work
of art. They also have much deeper valve pockets so piston to valve clearance
is not a problem with any camshafts.
12. What will your street strip port work do for me?
I learned long ago that your motor is just an air pump. You can make a lot of
power in a very mild combination if the head, pipe, carb work, air intake can
work together afficiently. I've spent the last 2 years perfecting my Bandit
1200 combination. My cylinder head work is not overly ported. Its not only
the size but the shape of the ports that make good overall power and good mid
range. The quality of the valve job, matching the intake manifolds to the
ports and lightly milling the surface are all key points that make power
gains at the rear wheel. For the work we do my head porting is very
reasonably priced because We specialize in the Bandit air oil cooled head
only and I only do the job one way.
13. Why do you mill the head when you do the port work?
We take off .015" to .020". This gets it to the CR I'm looking for
with my pistons and reduces the chamber size which really adds response and
makes it rev quick.
14. Whats the next step for even more power?
The next step would be to install the GSX-R exhaust cam and possibly a set of
38 to 40 mm Mikuni smooth bore carbs.
15. How much of a gain will this give me and how will it effect the power
delivery?
I've seen as much as 9 to 12 peak horse power, but keep in mind it will move
the power upstairs allot more and hurt the midrange throttle response. Unless
your planning on building strictly a track bike I usually don't recommend
this combination.
Brakes and Suspension
1. My bike doesn't seem to stop as well as it should and the front end really
dives when I brake hard. What's the first step to improve this?
Install our Galfer steel braided brake lines and Ferodo brake pads. This will
really give you a firmer lever feel and improve the braking power big time,
very smooth progressive braking can be expected.
2. I hear the ultimate front fork modification is the Race Tech gold valves
and springs, should I do this more expensive mod instead?
I usually recommend this set up for the very aggressive street rider or
occasional track day carver. The Race tech gold valves in conjunction with
their matching fork springs really make for the ultimate front end. With this
done the forks will really suck up the stutter bumps in the corners as well
as offer super smooth damping for better handling and ride quality.
3. Can I install the Race Tech parts myself?
If you're an ace mechanic I would say yes. The second option is to take your
forks to a shop that's familiar with the Race tech products and does this
type of work. The third option would be send us your forks and we will ship
them directly to Race tech for you to have everything installed. This cost
about $96.00 and is well worth it to have it done properly.